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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

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  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  Perry, Aborigines are smaller than Caucasians. There is going to be variation within a species. As far as their adaptability to their environment is concerned that can be expected since they've been raised in it.

  As far as their having more skills than us that is because we're the product of school education and further more we are not submerged in an environment from which we get our food. That is their 'profession' so to speak and evolution would have weeded out those who aren't smart enough.

  As for Neandertal and his brain he had, as I previously stated less frontal cortex due to the sloping of his skull. That is the portion of the brain that deals with fore planning. However he had much more of the occipital brain, to the rear where visual processing occurs.

  As far as tools are concerned it is undisputable in the scientific community that they did not compare with Homo Sapiens of the same time period. Just because it would be hard for you to make those tools doesn't mean that they're more intelligent than you. The reason is because they would learn those skills as children. It's like learning a second language, childhood is when it's best to do that.
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  The "Singing Contribution Box"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  so when will this idea be tried?

  we have all seen the singing literature trolley /cart song disaster that was shown in feb 2015.. i can just see this new idea appearing on jaydubyabroodcastin soon:.

  a singing contribution box that invites all to donate to the org..... "i have slots, give me lots,.

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  Village Idiot

  Right before the singing Kingdom Hall followed by the singing Watchtower and Awake as a duet.
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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  Village Idiot

  How does any of this have to do with the evolution of man with Neandertal being one of the offshoots? The hundreds of thousands of year refer to those species going backwards in time. As cranial capacity gets smaller the tools get simpler. Going backwards in time you have Homo Heidelbergensis from which Neandertal/Sapiens evolved; Homo Antecessor; Homo Erectus/Ergaster; Homo Rudolfensis; and further back you get the 'walking apes' like Australopithecine.

  So what is your boundary point for humanity? Which specimen do you draw the line at?

  By the way Homo Sapiens had flutes.
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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  "There remains a rump of blinkered scholars who still consider Neanderthals to be brutish savages, little better than animals, but fortunately they are a dwindling minority,"

  Not true except 70 or so years ago.

  Bahn, who was not involved in the study, said in an email.
  "I think almost all objective scholars now fully accept Neanderthal art."

  Not really. Neandertal is known for his lack of symbolic objects, such as bone carvings of animals and humans and cave wall paintings. That doesn't mean that there are no minor exceptions but that is the general consensus.

  
  Study co-author João Zilhão goes a step further, suggesting that, if Neanderthals were responsible for some of the Spanish cave art, then perhaps there's no real distinction between them and modern humans.

  His lack of a sophisticated tool kit indicates that he had lesser intelligence than Homo Sapiens.

  
  "It adds to the evidence ... that Neanderthals were a European racial variant of Homo sapiens, not a distinct species," said Zilhão, of the University of Barcelona.

  No, he wasn't a distinct race. He was a species in himself.
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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  So Perry, which of the species that have been fossilized do you believe are human versus something that's human-like but not quit us?

  Homo Erectus with 2/3 of our brain capacity? Homo Rudolfensis with even less cranial capacity but walking upright nonetheless? Their tools get simpler and simpler with the passage of time (hundreds of thousands of years)and the difference in their brain capacity. Is that not evolution?
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  REASON demands belief in God

  by abiather in

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  it has been the history of mankind that they proceed from the crude to the subtle in all spheres of life: they seek the subtle amidst the crude, and in the subtle, they seek the subtlest.

  when hunger is extinguished, humans looked for art.

  ancient humans appreciated the harmony of music; they also liked to dance in joy.

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  "REASON demands that everything requires a cause!"

  A cause, maybe, but not necessarily a causer.
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  When did you realize evolution was true?

  by Coded Logic in

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  ) which person/source first made you reconsider your position on creationism?.

  ) how long a period of time did it take to fully convince you?.

  ) what books and videos did you read and watch?.

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  1.) How old were you?

  About 21 a few months after my disfellowshipping.

  2.) Which person/source first made you reconsider your position on creationism?

  Carl Sagan and his series Cosmos.

  3.) How long a period of time did it take to fully convince you?

  Almost immediately.

  4.) What books and videos did you read and watch?

  Cosmos book and television series. Other books like People of the Lake by Richard E. Leakey.

  5.) How much better do you think you understand biology is now vs. before?

  Not too much into biology per se but I have a general grasp of the full spectrum of evolutionary change in inanimate matter - elements being made inside of stars - and how it leads up to elements that make up life.
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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  Brokeback Watchtower, make my day.

  
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  Bible Christianity is Holy baloney

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
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  underpinning all the claims of the jw org is a belief in the sanctity of the bible as gods word.

  this holy assumption is certainly never challenged by the watchtower and neither does the believer dare to use critical thinking to evaluate the source of his or her beliefs.

  the watchtower org, for obvious reasons would not do this as they would need to sell up and hand back the money were they to admit that the bible is just a piece of literature and not divine in origin.

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  Half banana, do you believe that Mohammed was also a pure myth invented by Muslims? It would be a parallel with the Jesus myth.
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  1st POST: A romance with a JW

  by myangelface in

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  2. experiences

  i am not a jw ...however i began having bible studies (i d call them watchtower studies).

  i was beginning to get lured in and brainwashed into accepting the religion as the true religion...but something inside of me told me there was something odd.

  some time passes and i was invited to a meeting and i accepted.

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  Village Idiot

  sowhatnow:

  "14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?" 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 New International Version

  An unbeliever in Paul's mind would be any non-Christian. In JWdom it would be any non-JW.